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not moved anything. so far they are moving on. going over the fiscal cliff. meanwhile, the president talked about it today. >> democrats and republicans in congress have to get this done. but they are not there yet. they are close. but they're not there yet. and one thing we can count on with respect to this congress is that if there is even one second left before you have to do what you are supposed to do, they will use that second. >> we will continue to work on finding smarter ways to cut spending but let's not let that hold up and protect americans from the tax hike to take place in ten hours. ten hours from now. we can do this. we must do this. >> bret: it's not clear whether they can. it's not clear whether that is all of them believe they must. bring in the panel. jonah goldburg. kirsten powers if for daily beast. syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. begin with the president's statement today that happened mid-day. he framed it as ed henry said as campaign style event. middle class families behind him. didn't have a lot of details and has had the same feel as he has had many tim
. >> charles? >> well, you know, there are two events that will happen january 1. one is the fiscal cliff, which i still think is likely, likely we will go over. maybe 60% chance. there could belag-minute proposal if obama is somewhat generous, not as arrogant and offers something that a small number of republicans in the house could support. there is a scenario where you wouldn't go over the cliff. he proposes a slight compromise on the level at which you get the higher taxes, $400,000. extension of unemployment stops with that. essentially. then if boehner were to allow a free open vote, then you could get 180 democrats plus 30 republicans. it could happen. >> doug: voila. >> that is the only scenario. possible one. >> doug: sounds so easy. >> yeah. a lot of this stuff is in principle easy. remember, obama was never interested in solving the fiscal issues. he wanted to break the republicans. he did. there is no civil war on the republican side that makes him sovereign in washington. a great political achievement. the other event is the debt ceiling. happening on january 1. the delicious
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